chown -R postgres $PGDATA did not work. I very much appreciate you taking the time to respond to this. The whole "magic" is that you work on the files on your host machine! that communicates with the Kata runtime on the host. Reminder: Docker Desktop is not free software (it's not even source available) and has embedded spyware that uploads a ton of sensitive info from your system without consent when it crashes. Isn't that the usual case: you have your code on your local filesystem and then run it using an interpreter in the Docker VM? How many companies fund Homebrew, or whatever apps are used in their build toolchain? The reason Docker Desktop and similar solutions need to come up with these different complicated solutions is that they want to share files between containers running inside a Linux VM and the host system. Hire a team and build your own fucking software then. I use Fedora on all my personal equipment, including laptops. Similar setup to #6243 (comment), MacOS Monterey 12.3.1 (Intel) It's FOSS through-and-through, and kinda eats Docker's lunch for a lot of my personal uses. Is this an issue with dynamic languages in general? "proxyHttpMode": "system", In a recent gossip session with some buddies, one told a story of a company that had hit the Docker rate limit during a production deploy but still refused to pay the subscription fee! Nevertheless, my file system seems to be correct inside the container because all the files in /home/node/app/ belong to node. A guide for manually "diskQcowCompactAfter": 262144, Note also that unless you are using Tor or something like Private Relay, your "anonymous" usage reporting isn't anonymous at all. The blog post doesn't seem to go into details. Shame you started charging for commercial entities. If you don't see this coming, well I don't what to tell you but that is the cost of doing business. I wont wait a few minutes to just be able to start reading. Docker works "seamlessly", except that being a VM it does use 3Gb for even the most basic containers. And only because you mentioned corporate how-to guides, Docker Desktop requires a paid license for commercial use. What makes Docker any different? Who is providing the support? A "control group" (or "cgroup") is a feature of the Linux kernel that lets you create an environment with a fixed allocation of memory, CPU, and other resources. Bind mounts are just a way to provide a different file path to access an existing directory. We only collect anonymous usage data, which you can opt out of. the same thing as a pod. It's more than a setting, it's the first thing you are asked when you start it for the first time. So in that model, you have to ship your codebase into the VM and then work on it from there. It's completely awful, seeing Mac and Windows spend their their trying to VM Linux, poorly. You may be looking for docker/roadmap#7. Docker Desktop is a VM because it allows you to run Linux containers. Well sorry but free without any conditions attached, becomes free as in beer. "diskStats": "", Can docker desktop please stop endlessly pestering me to upgrade? This is exactly how we configure our development environments after trying all sorts of different combinations. For the moment, we are aware of an outstanding issue where containers running with virtiofs can fail due to permission errors. Third parties even produced patches to do this but upstream rejected them. Most, if not all, of the major development environments run well in Linux. Hey as I am myself interested in a m1 air, did you ever try out to have a amd64 VM? "settingsVersion": 17, "licenseTermsVersion": 2, @ValentineL i think you're posting in the wrong issue, this bug is for a specific permissions issue that is happening. Software is worth paying for if it saves you time (and therefore money) and buys you a consistent, reliable experience with a pleasant UX. For example, as mentioned in error message - .gitconfig in the container with the following resolves the above git fatal error (and permissions become eventually correct within the mounted volume): (note security implications of above, not necessarily recommending). In fact I loathe the reluctance of companies to pay for software. When I have a choice I do use Linux because it is simply a better development environment. described in the official Privacy Notice, Terms And Conditions, Cookie Policy. "kubernetesEnabled": false, For more information, see VirtioFS. But for desktop development docker is a godsend to have a reproducible environment. During testing VirtioFS has been shown to drastically reduce the time taken to sync changes between the host and VM, leading to substantial performance improvements. I might as well try, because the Docker Containers are running in a VM anyway, and as I read somewhere, the performance issues VirtioFS is intended to solve might be avoided by not mounting stuff on the host? It has gotten worse of the weekend and is no unbearable. It will run a bit slower than native arm64 but is the best workaround I found. Which is handy for some things, but the general idea is to end up with a fully containerized program that you can tag, push to a registry; and pull to your production environment. You need them all. Human psychology does not appreciate this and will resist and resent it, because we see it as someone taking away what we have. If you discover any problems, please report them on the Mac filesystem performance thread on our public roadmap. "useVirtualizationFrameworkVirtioFS": true, Otherwise it does seem quite q bit faster, like `vite` starts up almost instantly instead of taking a second or two (having been used days prior, so it has its cache). Visual Studio Code, Gmail, Github, etc. Then run that side-by-side with what's currently deployed. Still think the best approach is to forgo containers locally and use tools like Jib or Bazel that build containers directly without a Docker daemon. @bagusk99 tried it and it fails just as before @wodka this is my settings.json file, i don't know maybe this can help, { They just accepts it. virtiofs has been included in Kata Containers and can be enabled as The thing I don't like about your method is having all my code checked out on the VM. "vpnKitMaxConnections": 2000, Its as simple as that. However, I am seeing this not on bind mount volumes, but on named volumes. You, sir, have a strange ideology of this. Maybe I'm missing something, but they seem pretty doomed overall. If I change my docker-compose.yml to add a user, I get a different error message: Sorry @spurin for crashing into your issue but I think we're experiencing symptoms of the same problem. If I try to run yarn install inside the container on my project, I see the following error: If I disable VirtioFS, I no longer get he error and the command installs the project correctly. Current work location gives developers Mac's. So, at the moment, if you are expected to do docker builds targetting linux servers, the clear logical choice is windows and wsl2 if you can't have a linux desktop, right? That was also the first place that I used Linux containers, long before Docker Desktop was a thing, and before the hype train really got rolling. to the smaller number of components involved. As a final note, interested developers should be aware of a known bug which can make containers running with virtiofs fail due to permission errors. Docker. Sadly some stuff I need isn't available on arm64, so would need to have a VM for that stuff, as compiling it myself would be just too big of a hassle, In reply to Hey as I am myself by anonymous, No need for VM. Did you really, truly think that a product like Docker desktop would stay free forever? Sorry, what do you think Docker for Mac does? "activeOrganizationName": "", Its exactly what youve described, with more ease of use and features like volume mounts from your Mac into the VM (which this post talks about optimizing). If you care about privacy, limit what software you use, put stuff that you worry about on another machine and keep your damn data off it. "firstLaunchTime": 1638871797, The "reminder" is that Docker isn't free and not "even" Open Source. "cpus": 8, Use the virtiofs repositories for Kata components that require virtiofs integration: The runtime presents an OCI-compliant runtime interface to Docker and i don't know if it's really boost up docker container to 98% like in this article said I'm not going to challenge your point but Docker also found itself in the unusual position of being commoditised before it could figure out how to make money. Went and had a look at the repository the author mentioned in the article and it looks like it's via docker compose using a bind mount volume with the delegated flag, at least for the Drupal side of things. I may end up needing to git-bisect and repeat this process a half dozen timesthis afternoon. It's been really helpful to avoid poisoning engineer's machines with hard-to-build / env corrupting software (hi Ruby). You can work it around, by adding the following operator to the mysqld command: command: mysqld --socket=/tmp/mysql.sock. I personally observed Docker Desktop attempting to upload zips containing system information and pcaps without my consent on crash. I also have the issue with MariaDB. As it's annoying to do most modern AI + HPC without nvidia GPUs, as long as you're not doing OpenCL, windows seems to have beaten os x for most data people. If there's been any progression in the development releases I'll happily test. On your docker compose file just add If VirtioFS is enabled and Docker Desktop is restarted, and then, the attempt is re-issued, the permissions for that directory are incorrectly owned by root -. It seems to me that a volume in the sense of docker volume create could be a better choice as you would have real unix semantics ? In the end, it's not a complaint about Docker's "value-add" software; they're complaining about an increase in the price without an increase in the value. The shim is a placeholder process on the host that forwards terminal I/O In a corporate environment so probably not unfortunately. to your account. The bait-and-switch also feels pretty insidious to a lot of developers, please refer to when Oracle did the same thing with their JVM implementation. I think I have the same issue, only this happens with mysql. If it weren't a VM then you can onlu use it to run macOS containers (which don't exist thanks to the lack of necessary kernel primitives) or Windows containers. Docker Desktop 4.6 for Mac introduces a number of changes that speedup file syncing between the macOS host and Docker VM. A CLI downloads and invokes a command inside a container image. Personal use is a drop in the bucket for them because personal users are not overwhelming their servers or pulling huge data daily. The latest version of Docker Desktop for Mac includes new toggles under the 'Experimental Features' section: I tested with the defaults (both features disabled, and 'Use gRPC FUSE for file sharing' under the 'General' tab), and then with VirtioFS enabled, and the results speak for themselves: That's a 114% speedup, and it makes a huge difference for my PHP development workflows using Docker on my Mac. Are Java/Kotlin and Golang, for example, not affected? Set the following [hypervisor.qemu] variables: Set the following [proxy.kata] variables: Also set all enable_debug variables to true for verbose output. You seem to have a good understanding of these containers. I mean Google, Microsoft, Chococately, Homebrew/Brew, etc have commercial licenses to cover the cost of their products to keep it free for personal-use users. "vpnKitAllowedBindAddresses": "0.0.0.0", Subsecond editing vs 10s-3min is a huge step back. On the host, download the virtiofs kernel tree by: Configure and build this kernel with the following .config file: On the host, download and install the virtiofs QEMU tree by: Decide where you want Go to put source code and packages: Decide where you want to build the sandbox root filesystem: Kata consists of several components, each with its own git repository. I have -- with some exceptions -- replaced it. Docker never said the product would be free forever. The reason why Docker haven't change stance on the pricing because those entities haven't/don't attempt to use their buying power to sway Docker to change their stance. "displayedTutorial": false, I know its very hard to build the Docker from source that you can download as binary. This thread is about issues with VirtioFS. "vpnKitMaxPortIdleTime": 300, Turning it off resolves the permissions issue. Won't rebuilding the image every time you make changes be slow? IMO, it would have been a whole lot better if the Desktop product had been paid to begin with, rather than being suddenly switched as a last minute monetization strategy. If you were curious, you can quickly try the environment on Google Cloud Shell using a standard google id -, I'm experiencing this in particular with postgres images where I mount a data dir from host into /var/lib/postgresql/data - the mounted directory gets root ownership, which I can't change. It's a statement of fact. On our end turns out that it was consistently reproducible with repositories as mounted volumes and linked to git's release addressing CVE-2022-24765. - Inside Docker container without VirtioFS enabled: around 25s. Any further thoughts on this? I'm using macbook pro 2020 intel base model and MacOS Monterey 12.4, i think i solve this issue to use VirtioFS and postgresql, just try this step and let me know if it's work. Of course, you can mount a host dir to avoid the problem to a certain extent. It's not a novel thought, it's been discussed here plenty enough that their business model vanished under their feet, especially when kubernetes entered the fray. > Docker Desktop 4.6.0 gives macOS users the option of enabling a new experimental file sharing technology called VirtioFS. But (hopefully) no more! "kubernetesInitialInstallPerformed": false, > the issue only arises/arose when mounting from macOS into the VM. Been there, done that, less convenient, more resource-intensive, and far noisier/cruftier than Docker (though the script-configured-VM approach is still far better than running that stuff directly on my machine[s], admittedly). Makes sense. Well, I use SublimeText, SublimeMerge, Finder, and Preview. When it's a product you actively use, that means the devs will either wait for shit to hit the fan or start looking at alternatives, and find that there are still free competitors (Rancher Desktop, Podman, Minikube depending on your use-case). Each sandbox contains an agent process The Docker commands you run on your host mac are sent into the Linux VM, to run the technologies Docker uses ("control groups" and "namespaces" mainly). In Kubernetes a sandbox can be thought of Now they have it, and I'm not sympathetic if it wastes their money. it's nowhere near docker's offering. It's impossible to skip the update unless I pay which is total BS. In more interesting setups, the class files aren't in the image but rather mapped in - much the same way one would with dynamic and then a hot reload - https://docs.spring.io/spring-boot/docs/1.3.8.RELEASE/refere > Spring Loaded goes a little further in that it can reload class definitions with changes in the method signatures. Becoming an editor for InfoQ was one of the best decisions of my career. VirtioFS directory sharing has permission errors, [Docker Desktop] Improve Mac File system performance, https://github.com/spurin/diveintoansible-lab, virtiofs breaks initial startup of Postgres container, Bind mount volume shows some files as owner "root:root", some as "1000:1000", access() reports file on bind mount as executable when it is not, https://www.docker.com/blog/speed-boost-achievement-unlocked-on-docker-desktop-4-6-for-mac/, Intel chip or Apple chip: Apple M1 (Mac Mini), Disable VirtioFS, run the command example listed, check that the directory is owned by testuser, Enable VirtioFS, repeat the test, if the issue occurs the directory is owned by root, setting > experimental feature > make sure "enable VirtioFS" and "Use the new Virtualization framework" in unchecked, if "enable VirtioFS" and "Use the new Virtualization framework" is checked we cannot uncheck "use gRPC" in general setting, setting > general > uncheck "use gRPC Fuse", apply and restart (in this state docker may shut down, if it happens, just reopen docker desktop), setting > experimental feature > check "enable VirtioFS". Docker does need to earn its crust and pay its people, and this is strictly for the desktop UI, team space, and nascent collaboration feature with dev environments. If there was some value add, then maybe it would be worth paying for. Containers run inside sandboxes. I've had it uninstall itself twice and then fail to reinstall on update. Container images will be exposed to the sandbox VM using virtiofs. InfoQ Homepage The 4.6 release of Docker Desktop for Mac contains a number of changes that drastically improve file sharing performance for macOS users. Topics include capacity and workload management, security integration, and homegrown PaaS integration. This is about making the same files accessible inside and outside a container. Your comment is out of place. Maybe they initially intended never to charge for DD but their initial business strategy didn't work and they had to pivot. platform: linux/x86_64 View an example, Real-world technical talks. We find it significantly faster to do macOS + Linux VM + Docker than macOS + Docker for Mac. Nice work and thanks! I am also seeing the Issue described here on Docker Desktop for Mac 4.7. You signed in with another tab or window. I'm aware of some document describing that it's not really a resource leak, and instructs us to look at real mem instead of memory consumption, but sadly MacOS is not conviced, and will happliy use memory and swap space until eventually it crashes with out of memory, so while a memory leak might not be the cause, _something_ is claiming to use a lot of memory and not releasing it again. The Docker binary, which runs containers and crashed, or the binary that handles the crash of the other binary? And people complaining about the "bait-and-switch" that occurred few years ago while Docker has been charging for non-free licenses way before that. "latestBannerKey": "", Gmail and Github are. Get the most out of the InfoQ experience. And because of the nature of software, it's easy to build POC's and prototypes that half-work today, with the promise of better functionality and integration in the future. I would argue it's only bait and switch if they implied that it would always be free. Just telling people to worry about privacy isn't helping, and probably does more harm than good. Any chance this will become available to older macos versions? }, EDIT: This is approaching the limit of my knowledge. I saw this website that suggests Apple themselves are not providing such a feature do they see it as a security issue? Passwords for various Docker websites. After monitoring the issue File system performance improvements for years (discussion has moved to this issue now), it seems like the team behind Docker Desktop for Mac has finally settled on the next generation of filesystem sync. I switched to Colima and haven't had a problem since. Prior to these improvements there was a huge benefit: much better filesystem performance. Join a community of over 250,000 senior developers. I have no idea why this would have worked when the Postgres image already tries to do chown -R postgres "$PGDATA" when it starts up. Also ran into what appears to be the same issue this morning, would love any workarounds or suggestions people have. Well, just slap down a credit card! That is not how large enterprises work, and Docker appears to have fallen down on their market research when they didnt set up a way to deal with purchase orders. Docker for Mac's shared volume performance saga continues! The Kata configuration file controls the behavior of all Kata components. All of which you can pry from my cold, dead paws. "diskTRIM": true, Not much, is the answer. Having the same issue with a postgres container mapping to a host volume after activating VirtioFS on MacOS Montery. The default sandbox RAM size is 2G, so reserve 1024 * 2MB I'd say that perhaps using either Docker with the CLI, IDE integrations/plugins or using Rancher Desktop (https://rancherdesktop.io/) are more cost effective alternatives in that case. I can get ~1 second reload times for node.js services outside of Docker. Did they say from the beginning * "Hey, it's free forever!" Many of us can't use it with the macos firewall, network just stops working after a couple of days. Wasn't my decision (in-fact I campaigned against it). I didn't know overlayfs is near native, cool! Multipass from Canonical has been working really well for me. And be realistic of this world, you cannot expect software companies to survive on free account alone forever. "autoDownloadUpdates": false, A feature do they see it as someone taking away what we have to git-bisect and repeat process! A VM because it is simply a better development environment releases I 'll happily test the best I! 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