I will have to downgrade a 28 core workstation to regular Windows 10 just to use WSL2 and CUDA, but then I will lose the ability for multiple users to be logged in. WSL2 does not to my knowledge work on LTSC Server 2019 or latest 2022 builds and (weirdly) is not intended to. If WSL2 is added only on the upstream semi-annual channel, it would be very difficult to get customers to use it, as a lot of people still just want Windows Server + GUI and RDP (even though it may seem like a bad thing, it's what a lot of people do). Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 1:45:41 PM I am in trouble because i have established all my development strategy on deploying a web app through a Docker's container installed on a Windows Server 2019. Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 10:16:17 AM ***> Windows Server, version 2004 SAC release notes, https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-server-insiders/wsl-2-not-working-after-installing-20262/m-p/1928823, https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-server-insiders/how-to-install-wsl-2-on-windows-server/m-p/858359, https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACSWFW47MOQYRLX2SUCJJB3ST7AVLANCNFSM4M7VM5SA, https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACSWFW7AUZS2KS7K4A2YZ7LST7GLHANCNFSM4M7VM5SA, Foster beeing OS agnostic by introducing other environments (like Windows) to GitHub Actions builds, a newer build of windows for WSL2 than Windows Server 2019, https://twitter.com/WSV_GUY/status/1358522964052832257?s=19, https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FTBBle&data=04%7C01%7C%7C83af0822dc444995ceaf08d8e17bf5d5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637507269816436905%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yU3naHjYPuRainhtQX77EdJpImZPexPFMsYraShVRgU%3D&reserved=0, https://twitter.com/WSV_GUY/status/1358522964052832257?s=19 Their comments depict it very much as a dev tool to work on Windows and deploy on Linux servers/containers without a lot of hassle. Also can confirm the above. To make a long story short : i have spent a long time on trying to make a linux containers (ShinyProxy to be exact) works on WS19 before i found this tread. Nowadays most of the new server side programs are containerized, in docker, and run with k8s. ***>; Mention ***@***. ________________________________ They only formally support Windows 10 versions still in servicing, so https://docs.docker.com/desktop/windows/install/ lists Windows 10 21H1 or higher (20H2 for Enterprise/Education) but even if they are enforcing that in the installer, an installer from early-mid 2021 (when the 30-month support window for Windows 10 version 1809 expired) would still allow installation. ***>; Mention ***@***. We need a WSL subsystem on a supported server with a GUI and a decent lifecycle. Dan Decker, ________________________________ Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. failed to start service utility VM (createreadwrite): hcsshim::CreateComputeSystem feed74e37d12e5f46740b066cb1d49fca497ebad70755bcd8586d26f43ff74ce_svm: The virtual machine could not be started because a required feature is not installed . Is it possible to open a ticket while LTSC is still in preview mode? Docker Desktop runs on windows server and I think it uses a Linux kernel allowing you to run Linux containers because Docker Desktop requires Hyper-V when not using WSL2. Subject: Re: [MicrosoftDocs/WSL] WSL2 Support for Windows Server 2019 (. Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 11:31:30 AM produces any output as a starter. But from a security perspective, it is a bit scary that you can have access to all your Windows partitions and do with the files whatever you want. Hi there. Hyper-V backend will not be the issue as much as any existing support for LTS windows. Official Linux containers only) or run into issues that ought to be fixed in Docker for Windows (MongoDB). Another vote for WSL2 on 2019/2022. @TBBle WSL2 + Linux containers on Windows Server appear to be dead in the water, unfortunately. Ive tested this with WS2022 and the command to update the Linux kernel. Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 5:20:13 AM ***> The author in the comments says: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-on-server, Is it V1? This is very sad, since I need WSL2 running on my Windows Server 2022 Datacenter.. I understand how it ended up there but seems strange to simultaneously hype how WSL2 is an incredible innovation but not production ready. microsoft/Windows-Containers#37, @shanselman I really wanted to use WSL2 that you advertised. That said, LCOW was never very good, it had a lot of limitations that were never resolved, which is why everyone has deprecated it in favour of future containerd-based approaches which are currently (AFAIK) still WIP. The main difference is that the store version is no longer tied to Windows Updates: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/a-preview-of-wsl-in-the-microsoft-store-is-now-available/. Nested virtualization is not supported with AMD, is supported with Intel, Doesn't support running Hyper-V on top of KVM. WSL2 + proper database support, or Windows containers on Windows with bug fixes for the issues preventing databases from working, but we've got to have at least one of the two and fast. You could jump forward to the vNext LTSC preview, perhaps? As far as running containers without Hyper-V, I didn't even think that was possible? Cc: Dan Decker ; Comment The ability to run Linux containers natively in Windows Server to me is critical. It's literally a foreign thing running inside Windows, and how are AVs going to deal with that exactly? Most databases either don't have official images (SQL Server 2019! ***> After adding virtual machine platform and doing a reboot then doing wsl update it errors out. To: MicrosoftDocs/WSL Docker are less-supportive: docker/for-win#6470. ***>; Mention ***@***. ***> The windows containers are useful but severely limited in terms of availability compared with Linux. I am also running Windows Containers and I've discovered a couple of small gotchas around running Windows Containers vs. Linux Containers, such as how space inefficient MSI installers are. Three options really: I think youd still have the same issue with the WSL2 install from the Windows store unless the Virtual Machine Platform installation actually works. Documentation is really confusing. You may still be able to run containers user the Docker Desktop Hyper-V backend, although Docker Desktop does not formally support Windows Server, as far as I recall. Cc: Dan Decker ***@***. Best, ***> ________________________________ @therealdandecker there used to be an LCOW effort that didn't really go beyond the experimental stage, so maybe they just decided on never doing it back then. The current ticket, being a report against the docs, is probably not bringing much visibility to a feature request. But realizing that getting Linux containers to run properly (including databases that are very tied to specific filesystem i/o calls) on Windows Server, I would settle for simply using Windows containers on Windows, as this is the only native option. The thing is that this is precisely what most people waiting for WSL2 on Windows Server want to do it with: run production workloads. Although the error message you got suggests that you got past that point, and are hitting a lower-level issue. I did the same on PowerShell but the daemon refuse to launch due to unsufficients rights. So I believe this issue should be closed as WEKNOWBETTERWHATYOUNEED WONTFIX. Cc: Dan Decker ***@***. Best, pfff, I understand that they dont want to use WSL2 for production hosting but as a CI/CD tool? Yes, not everything can run Hyper-V It's sad because WSL2 is what the original LCOW should have been, so they now have a good basis to make it work. ***> From: Florian-cypheR ***@***. is it not supported or simply its moved beyond preview releases. Basically its a response from someone at Microsoft indicating WSL2 is not intended for production use and thus is excluded from Windows Server. Unless someone can convince Microsoft otherwise, I think WSL2 will remain a Windows 10 developer toy, unfortunately. ***> what can I say ? I don't see a reason why it would not be possible to make it run unofficially, but it'll always be an unsupported option without Microsoft's stamp of approval. Support on WS 2019 is likely deprecated using Hyper-V backend because Docker Desktop only supports a certain number of prior windows releases. Subject: Re: [MicrosoftDocs/WSL] WSL2 Support for Windows Server 2019 (, How does support for feature requests like this work? I'm currently running my Windows Server 2019 in an environment where I can't spin-up Hyper-V in the instance so I'm unable to use the 'regular' LCOW experimental method. To: MicrosoftDocs/WSL To: MicrosoftDocs/WSL ***@***. We use Windows Server 2019 as teamcity build agents and want to use docker in teamcity with support for linux containers and now it sounds like this is not going to happen and that we need a linux based build agent? ________________________________ That's correct, the Windows Server instructions only cover WSL, as they predate WSL2 and have not been updated to cover WSL2. To: MicrosoftDocs/WSL ***@***. If you'd like to use WSL 2 distros on Windows Server I would recommend you use Windows server version 20H2 for the time being. The same counts for Kuberenetes in my opinion. I'll have to check that out - I have been doing my development work on Windows 10 Pro right now, which definitely requires Docker on Desktop and Hyper-V + Intel Virtualization in Bios. It is required for docs.microsoft.com GitHub issue linking. But We are eagerly waiting to run Linux containers on Windows Server 2019 platform. Windows Server 2012 R2 Slow and creating Temp profiles Windows Server 2019 Powercfg AMD optimization. Do not edit this section. Subject: Re: [MicrosoftDocs/WSL] WSL2 Support for Windows Server 2019 (, Tried it. Microsoft needs to do (a lot) better if they want Windows Server to keep up with Linux. ***> This means that you can run WSL 2 distros on those Server versions. I think it is obvious that it won't happen for Windows Server 2019, but maybe there's hope with Windows Server 2022 using the new Windows Subsystem for Linux Preview available on the store. 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