I keep hearing they're a high strung pain in the butt. Sent a deposit and had to wait for the next litterjust a few months. and call them off of deer scent. Usually the best trackers start out on lead for 3 or 4 seasons. At a hunt to retrieve trial that got your dog booted instantly. We got ours 2 months ago from a breeder in Ashdown, AR. quiet until you shoot or give the release command. them smell it and eat it if they like. Theres definitely some differences in opinions out there concerning this topic. I love Boykins. Once the birds have all been flushed and pup comes back put a leash on him and get him They only have one litter every two years. Thats just my anecdotal, not some professional insight.but Ive seen and worked with good and bad of many breeds: lab, Boykin, springer, golden, and many pointing and versatile breeds. My Boykin turned 15 in October. to sit quietly while you call the birds back in. We were shooting a thrown launched duck with blind retrieve they aren't labs but pretty good. You may want to practice at home making I own a Catahoula. I would think a Boykin Spaniel would be just right. They are great dogs. Shot a Boykin field trial once very versatile dogs. Someone working a lab may have a completely different perception of off lead tracking than someone working say a dashund or a Kopov. Contact Us - Always better if the dog can track on lead. Start with about 15 minute sessions and by the time they are 6-7 months old A good friend has one. What length leads? in Shreveport. Some states don't allow off lead tracking. In Boykins hands the little stray developed into a superb turkey dog and waterfowl retriever. just bred into 'em. Discussion in 'Hunting' started by courtgreene, Oct 30, 2018. 51B194B7-208F-4B7B-B251-165C45F8C1D9.jpeg. Both loved water as well. I have been looking at a lot of different breeders and they all have huge waiting lists. I guess I`m not a best tracker cause I don`t track on lead, I have two pups"both reg. I've never trained a dog to track. You have control over what the dog is doing especially when it's a pup. Archive - Privacy Statement - The kids love her. You can train them for pretty much any kind of hunting apparently, except pointing. You didn't say how many of the calls taken were put on the tailgate. Do not own one but there are two where I hunt. They are brothers. You may want to take a large burlap bag into the woods with you. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. It can always be turned loose if needed to bay, cross big water or whatever. This will take a few times or more for the pup to learn Terms of Service - Eventually he will get the idea that he has to stay the pup sit still for a half and hour. They require a soft hand or you will shut them down. He was telling me that they made the Boykin as a pure hunting dog b/c the springer had almost exclusively become a show dog. When your pup is about 3 months old take him/her out for about 15 minute walks 4 -5 Most people including mike who I've talked to many times abut tracking agree that a lead is the best for at least 3 seasons. I went with a Field Bred English Cocker; worth considering as well, IMO. But boat travel limited what hunters could carry. This information was found on the website for the Boykin Spaniel Society. boykin owners are "different". Boykin spaniels are true dual-purpose hunting dogs. With selective breeding and a little luck, Boykin developed a small multipurpose retriever now known as the Boykin spaniel. Boykin Spaniel Standard. Mostly use mine to retrieve, but they are natural flushers as well. Like many of the sporting breeds, Boykin spaniels make the transition from hunting companion to family pet easily. There will always be situations where the dog needs to be on lead (roads, property lines and such). Great little dog. The typical heavyweight retriever was a drawback in a craft already loaded with men, guns, provisions and other gear. Sometimes under the right circumstances I allow my dog to track off lead for a mile or more. times a week. Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. not to chase deer. This dog became the foundation stock for the Boykin spaniel. The guy who originally bred Boykins did a great job! Ive got two. I do have permanent scars on my forearms from tracking on lead. Copyright @2022 TigerDroppings.com. I'm not looking for a specific hunting dog, just an all-around hunting dog. About same size as a Boykin. I feel like I can read him pretty well now by his behavior and body language and I have the ability to stop or correct him in the palm of my hand just the same. Good luck and happy hunting! I would have no fear of having him around small children. Comparing just running a dog off lead with no control over them versus running one with an Alpha system is apples and oranges. I wouldn't follow her a half-mile or more with no blood, as I often do, if I couldn't read her and trust her. No training has ever been required. By logging into your account, you agree to our, The following errors occurred with your submission. Several door prizes will be given away as well. This is encouraging. W. Whit Boykin (1861-1932), a planter, land appraiser and well-known sportsman of the Boykin community just outside Camden, South Carolina, along with his kinsmen the Canteys, experimented with many breeds to resolve the problems posed by their Wateree hunting trips. She has no problems hunting with other dogs, but doesnt generally like being around them, otherwise. The first Boykin spaniel, or the precursor of todays breed, was reportedly a small, stray spaniel type dog that befriended a banker walking from his home to the First Presbyterian Church in Spartanburg, South Carolina around 1905-1910. Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting. Curs are great dogs. I would say that they are very capable dogs for retrieving and make a great house dog. Shes been a fantastic dog. We are just getting ready to do some training with her. It will still probably be a long wait especially for a female. Does anyone have experience with this breed as either a pet in general or a hunting dog? First time I showed up in a mask, he wanted nothing to do with me. pam@boykinspaniel.com Pam's Boykin Home Page Ducksyou could say that! I track on lead because I dot want anything to happen to my dog beyond my control. Both of mine were/are great on pheasant flushing and retrieving. 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There is literally nothing that I would have changed about her. I always preferred a 35 to 50 pound dog. I think this is gonna be fun. Some people use harnesses some people use GPS collars. A.J., I did say "usually". I do know when my dog is on the right track, even when there is no blood, because I can "read" her when she's on lead. Talked to a lady in Austin that had a male (we wanted a female) and then the folks in Ashdown. I will echo what Cruiser said, English Cockers are great dogs too. When the pup is about six months I try to take them where turkeys are likely to be and When the pup comes This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I talked to a breeder in Hallsville, TX and was put on a "long" waiting list. Similar situatuion here. Gain a better understanding of the World's most popular big game animal and the techniques that will help you become a better deer hunter. Hunters on South Carolinas Wateree River needed a small rugged dog compactly built for boat travel and able to retrieve on land and water. I see the points being made by both sides of the argument. Ive listened to both ways of thinking and ended up doing a combination of both. All rights reserved. Still want to try one, though. There is one listed in Morringsport, but we could never get a reply. Alabama Blood Tracking Training Seminar March 12, Re: Alabama Blood Tracking Training Seminar March 12, Want to trade my 20 gauge TSS and IC choke, Deer clubs who keep turkey rights separate, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1. Like any good field breed, theyre probably as much about how theyre trained as what breed they are. Work your way up to it by starting with 5 minutes They are so similar in behavior, mannerisms, and hunting style that I couldn't tell the difference in the two if I didn't know their lineage. Stamina in hot weather and eagerness to please make this dog a favorite in the dove fields, but Boykins have retained their spaniel flushing abilities and readily adapt to a variety of upland game hunting including pheasant, quail and grouse. Your right about getting to a call quickly, it saves a lot of meat and the only tracks you need to wait a few hours on are gut shots and liver shots. Smart, love water, eager to hunt and please Whats not to like? If you guys are even thinking about going off lead then definitely check out the Garmin Alpha system. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -. How did you settle on a breeder? Id recommend to give both ways a try and then decide over time for yourself which way works better for you. Great family dogs, great hunters all-around great disposition! Most hunting Boykins, English Springers or English Cockers will be hot wired for play. When ya'll pick a pup for a blood dog do you ever consider that a smaller breed, daschund for example, will usually live longer than a larger bred dog? Is that about right? Joe Sears of Adventure Game It is NOT legal in South Carolina or Florida. Alexander L. White (1860-1942) liked the little dog and took it home. A tracking lead in no way holds a dog back, except maybe swimming a pond, and in that case I just send someone to the other side to catch her when she comes out on the deer's trail. I am considering Boykin Spaniel Plantation in Georgia right now. This past season both pups worked with an old dog off leadMy old dogs 7 & 8 year olds never been train on lead both or good trackers.Randy "trackncur" knows thats. An aptitude for water retrieving combined with their compact size assures these dogs a place in the duck boats and blinds as well. Buy from a reputable breeder and check carefully on their blood lines. They are more than adequate for both according to the reviews I read online. with a little luck they will smell the birds and start chasing and barking at them. The Boykin Spaniel was first bred by South Carolina hunters during the 1900s to provide the ideal dog for hunting ducks and wild turkeys in the Wateree River Swamp. He still has a long way to go though and well likely go back to doing some on lead training over the summer. They work hard in the field so, since they are flushers, be prepared to try to keep up. 22B39269-3CA1-4E5D-AA3D-5ACBEAAC6D03.jpeg, 629B26EC-9920-4E50-A0A9-B9B94C7543BB.jpeg, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. She had tons of drive when training/hunting, but settled down nicely in the home. Several of the ducks got ate after them retrieving to shoreline and it didn't bother owners to much. Can't go wrong with one. Being choosie now, but a light colored dog is easier to see and read, especially at night. Hunters also used sections as one-man boats just large enough for one person and a compact retriever.L. Once he smelled me, all was fine. I did the vast majority of Otiss training in the first year on lead and then switched to an off lead method this tracking season. For more information please visit their website at www.boykinspaniel.org. My EC is also liver colored. Shes completely calm in the house, but was a fantastic flusher and retriever in her younger days. They just inseminated the bitch and expect to have a litter in 2 months. I have been wanting one myself for a while and now that I am retiring soon I have decided it is time to get one. Swamps and snake bites aren't as much problem and those size dogs tend to be healthy, agile and long lived. LOVES the water! Males are $650, females $600. I miss mine terribly. Awesome dogs Had one in high school and college and hunted doves and ducks with him. The little Dude gives you all he has every time. Love my Boykins! They are not built for sloppy mud (not that a lab is either, but I've seen the boykin get stuck where a lab could eventually get out). (retriever, squirrel dog, rabbit dog, etc). back to you put him into the bag. Copyright 2000-2022 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Ive hunted with a lot of other boykins and most were pretty business minded in the field. Boykins have often been described as the dog that doesnt rock the boat. They are even effective in deer driving or in tracking wounded deer. Most testing is done with a 10m lead. Never owned one before, but have had friends that did. Well..Perhaps her insistence that she ride on my lap everywhere we went. You need to take her to trail your first deer. There have been like 4 track dogs do this year alkne due to cars. One of the best breeds out there, IMHO. Just saying it is nice to have a dog that can do both. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Then try putting the bag over Just field experience. She wants something small, and I want a hunting dog so we are looking at Boykin spaniels. Is there a certain length or type I should use? Cookie Policy - battues boy, Merlot, is a rock star of a dog! Don't be too harsh on them about it until you are sure they can Not as good as my Lab or chesapeake but no slouch either and can go a lot harder in the dove fields than any of the others. In those days wagons, wooden boats and trains afforded hunters access to the game rich corridors along the river. You have to if your going to bay up a neck shot, broken leg, etc. Note: Be sure to check your state regulations to make sure it is okay to hunt Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use. On the Wateree River in the early part of this century hunters often used a take apart section boat. Held together by bolts to form a large craft, the three sections with seats removed could be nested to fit neatly into a wagon or trains baggage car. If I find any turkey feathers while walking I pick them up, call the dog to me, and let the walks are five or six days a week for thirty to forty-five minutes at a time. the pup and giving the stay command. History of the Boykin Spaniel To be a part of the Boykin Spaniel pages, contact Pam Kadlec: Are you looking for a specific type of hunting dog? They are good for any kind of duck but a goose would be too big. They flush, they don't point. This post was edited on 10/18 at 11:37 am, This post was edited on 10/18 at 12:14 pm. Buddy was raised from a pup by the ranch foreman and is a deer tracking machine. After the dog showed some aptitude for retrieving, White sent the dog called Dumpy to his longtime friend and hunting partner Whit Boykin. The only thing I (think) I know for sure is that each pup is an individual, and ignoring that to make them fit in some box for a breed generality on temperament, training aptitude, etc is likely an issueat least as much as hearing about stubborn spaniels, destructive Boykins, or labs with no drive, etc. There is one close to where I live (Shreveport) but I don't know anything about them and they are extremely new (2 years). It's really a preference. I've found both to be great house dogs and hunters. When you say "harness" What type are you referring to? distinguish between deer and turkey scent. Plotts" now 24 and 19 months neither has had any training on lead. I would probably train to retrieve and blood trail. and add a little more each time. Mine was perfect with people and other dogs. Only two of them hunted and I was VERY impressed with them!!!!!! I contacted the one on Old Mooringsport Rd. It will be much harder when you are actually out in the You can see a picture of him in my thread ". I've never hunted with a Boykin, but I know a guy that hunts with a Springer Spaniel. My Boykin "Tig" is about 8. been one of the better gundogs ive owned. All rights reserved. It's just a preference. Mb. I had a friend that use to train labs for blood dogs say that he would never try to train a hound as a blood dog, he would always prefer a bird dog (retriever) of some kind. One of my best dogs, Ol' Bob, never tracked a step off lead. I had a Boykin and, when I couldn't find a suitable pup to replace him, found a Field Bred English Cocker pup. When you first take a puppy out for walks and there are deer in the area - watch out This will help quiet him. You might just be surprised how well she does with no training. The are very similar to Boykins, both at home and in the field. field, but if the pup knows what is expected of him, it makes correction much easier. He is great around people he knows but does bark at those he does not. Big old lap dogs at home bird crazy in the field. Other ancestors are reported to be the Chesapeake Bay retriever, springer spaniel, cocker spaniel, and the American water spaniel.Today this little brown retriever can be found on hunts and in homes across America. I'd really like to attend this. The Mrs. Last Coco and I are looking into getting a dog. A friend of mine has one. The three that I am familiar with were great pets. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. Never owned a Boykin; always heard good things about them. It's turkeys with dogs. I guess I got the best of both worlds with the Boykin that I had. I have friends that track their deer with pit bulls. Calls with Beechnut and Chaser. 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